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    Lena Oberbrunner
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    Really? Hangzhou is my dream city...

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      Madeline Hermann III
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      As a local looking for a job, I've definitely felt discriminated against. It's somewhat better if the boss is also a local, but many non-local bosses, openly or subtly, assume you can't handle hardship. Some even directly ask if your family home was part of a demolition and redevelopment project or if you're an only child.

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        Theresa Sporer
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        They also try to lowball salaries, saying things like, 'Oh, you locals don't have rent pressure, and your families will subsidize you anyway.'

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          Sally Breitenberg
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          Back in 2014, Hangzhou was the first stop on a multi-city tour. Out of the ten cities I visited, it was the only place where a roadside stall tried to rip me off.

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            Mr. Jody Bednar
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            It's true that people in Shanghai and Hangzhou would rather marry a Japanese person than someone from Henan.

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              Andrea Hand
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              It's not so much about being exclusionary; it's more a sense of superiority, though I don't know where they get it from.

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                Barry Kuphal
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                So true! My university professor once asked us (students from the Northwest) if the Northwest was as developed as 'here' (Hangzhou) and if transportation was inconvenient there...

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                  Reginald Ziemann
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                  In Hangzhou, I tried to get a taxi for a short 3-4 km trip from West Lake. I was refused by over ten taxi drivers; none would take me. I finally got a ride-share, and the driver told me it was because the trip was too short for them. So frustrating!

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                    Lula Schmidt
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                    But many of those taxi drivers are actually from Henan or Anhui.

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                      Karen Zulauf
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                      I'm a local, and to be honest, it's the really old generation that gives Hangzhou a bad name. They turn nasty and sharp-tongued the moment they hear someone speaking Mandarin. Once they're 'gone,' Hangzhou will be a much better place. Middle-aged and younger Hangzhou locals are generally quite polite and well-mannered.

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                        Madeline Hermann III
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                        I can't help but chuckle at the 'once they're all gone' part.

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                          Elsa Wyman
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                          I'm not really sure what 'being exclusionary' truly entails. Other than a reluctance to choose non-locals in the marriage market, I don't think there's much of that feeling in everyday life, right?

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                            Antoinette Ferry
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                            Exactly, I don't feel it at work at all. In fact, I felt a much stronger sense of being an outsider when I worked in Chengdu, where most people are Sichuan locals.

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                              Lula Schmidt
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                              The 'exclusionary' people you're referring to are likely those from the 'urban villages'β€”the ones whose properties are slated for demolition or have already been redeveloped. They've become rich from compensation, act all high and mighty, and look down on everyone.

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                                Elsa Wyman
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                                Yes, that happens. I'm from Sichuan, and my boyfriend is from Xiaoshan, from one of those families who benefited from demolition and redevelopment. His father passed away, and his mother isn't really involved in his life. However, his grandmother and aunt are strongly against him dating an 'outsider' girlfriend like me. We genuinely love each other, and I'm an only child from a well-off family, so I don't need his money. It's all incredibly frustrating right now.

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                                  Barry Kuphal
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                                  The local population is already down to nearly 20% of the total, and they're still being exclusionary?

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                                    Mr. Jody Bednar
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                                    Hangzhou's public buses and subways don't even have announcements in the Hangzhou dialect. How can you still call that exclusionary...?

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